The Saga of Becoming Fruitful

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Woman - Are You a Geriatric Case???

I went to see the Chiropractor - only the 2nd in the last 12 months of my 40 year-life. It was my first time to see her and she is good! She massaged my back, eased my very knotted shoulders and adjusted a lot of my bones! Crack and pop! Whoa, I feel much better!

Guess what? After NOT trying for 11 years, she had an unplanned pregnancy early this year but miscarried. She is 35 years old, 3 months pregnant again and still cracking bones.

I asked her until when she will be able to do that (as I like her already even if it is just our first appointment and I don’t want to be passed on to the other practitioners). She said she does not know yet and will just have to wait and see…

Anyway, her doctor called her a case of “geriatric pregnancy”. Hu-wat??? Say it again… GERIATRIC PREGNANCY. If she, a 35-year old woman , is considered a geriatric pregnancy case, that means I, 40-years old, fall in that same category also (I am not pregnant though, I just wish though…)

Wow, I never thought of my case being “geriatric”. Somehow, I reserve that term to the really, really old people - all wrinkled, gray hair, slow-moving and stooping. Yes, we all go that way in the future…but meanwhile, I just never thought of myself in that way at this time.

Hmmm… the Reproductive Endocrinologists do call our cases “Advanced Maternal Age” - are they just being nice??? Or does the terminology change once they turn us over to the OB/GYNEs???

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When she learned that I was trying to get pregnant too, she mentioned that she had a couple of friends who had difficulty conceiving and were able to get pregnant after going through acupuncture. She specifically mentioned one who was getting periods 2x a year only and got pregnant!

I’m not easily affected by such statements but hmmm…. I’m just wondering if acupuncture is the new “just relax and you’ll get pregnant” or “if you adopt, you’ll get pregnant” statements?

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Now, I mentioned in my previous post that the insurance’s 1-800 number said that since I have met my Out-of -Pocket max expense for the year, that I do not have to have co-pay. Well, the Chiropractor office asked me for a co-pay since their system showed that I still need to have co-pay. I’m disappointed but I’d like to go back and continue my “therapy”, so I paid the co-pay.

I called the insurance 1-800 number again and they did confirm my original understanding. I called the Chiropractor’s office and they said they will look into it. I told them that I would like to have that settled before my next appointment because I do not want to keep paying if I do not need to (even if they will refund it).

After I confirm that my insurance does take over 100% and no copay after meeting my Out-Of-Pocket, Acupuncture is next!!!

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Ohhhh… all the blogging ideas coming to me when I am laying on my tummy and getting my back massaged!

IVF Success for the Advanced Maternal Age-d?

Prior to this week, I have not been blogging here since nothing much is going on at the infertility front. No medical activity, that is… but I am continuing to read infertility blogs of my fellow ladies.

Specifically, I have been trolling the blogs of my peers - those of the Advanced Maternal Age category. Or as Mel calls us - “Over 35 and TTC”.

Here are the most significant takeaways I have from all that reading:

• Of the ladies who are of advanced maternal age as I am, I have not read of anyone who had a baby through IVF except Raggedy Ann (and if what I pieced together from her blogposts, she had her boy when she was less than 35 years old). It’s depressing not hearing about “success stories” from my peers.

• I read of some ladies in the comments sections who mentioned that they did get pregnant without medical intervention. How I wish I am one of these ladies. But as you can see, my cycle counter is now at 50 days and my period has not arrived yet. Classic anovulation there for me!

I just want a ray of hope…

Consultation re IVF - REFRAMING (Part 1)

We had our consult with DrH and she was very accomodating. She answered all our questions - I didn’t necessarily like all her responses, but it is good that she didn’t sugar coat it. She said that she would have discussed most of the topics anyway but appreciated the questions I sent in because it gave her an idea where we were coming from.

She said that she wished there were more couples who were more concerned on what would be done to their embryo.  She just gave me some more additional things to dig more on too…

Anyway, I wrote all that I could remember from our consult … yes I forgot the recorder… and writing it down resulted into a very long post, so I am broke it into 3 parts.

OUR INFERTILITY FACTORS
The factors we are facing are Advanced maternal age, PCOS/Anovulation and Low sperm morphology:
- PCOS/Anovulation can be “tricked” by controlled ovarian hyperstimulation (COH).
- Low sperm morphology effect would be minimized with IVF.
- So, the only factor that we cannot do anything about is the advanced maternal age - that determines the egg quality. (I got the usual talk about “women are born with all the eggs for their whole lifetime. As the woman ages, the quality of the eggs “deteriorate”.” In essence, my eggs are old… my raw materials have deteriorated.

Re my 3.5 FSH - DrH said that what it means is that for a 40-year old woman, that was good. However, it still does not compare to a 25-year old woman’s eggs who tests as 3.5 FSH. My eggs are still 15 years older!

WHAT OUR IVF WOULD LOOK LIKE
Since I am a good responder to the gonadotropin, DrH expects to be able to harvest a lot of eggs if I undergo COH in preparation for IVF.  However, she said that fertilization and viability of embryos from eggs of someone my age may not be very good, so just fertilizing a few eggs will not make sense and that the procedure will not be worth it. She also recommends to transfer back 3-4 embryos since the implantation of embryos for someone of my age may not be very good as well. (So that means the “fate” of embryos that are not transferred is a real key question.)

As for typical reasons for IVF cancellation, DrH mentioned 3:
- low stimulation
- overstimulation (typically for younger women)
- ovulated early (or early LH surge)

What to expect with Lupron?
- Before starting, ultrasound to make sure there are no cysts
- Start Lupron. Attend IVF Orientation
- Expect period
- Baseline ultrasound

DrH said that the Follistim dosage she would use for IVF would be at the same level as our 1st Follistim stimulation (that was cancelled) which showed I was a good responder. So instead of the $3K medicine cost estimate, she thinks I would only be using $1.5K worth of meds.

Progesterone is going to be intramuscular (IM) injection…on the butt? on the thigh???. (I was hoping it was just suppository even if it was a bit messier.) Uuuggghhh…

Until How Old Will You Try to Get Pregnant?

Being of “advanced maternal age” myself, the question of until when will you try to get pregnant is something that has crossed my mind a couple of times. Even as early as 25 years old, I have heard comments and read articles that mentioned about a woman’s biological clock tick-tocking away. Apparently and as always, the answer is personal and is different on a case-to-case basis.
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